Dale is natural born “relater”. No one is a stranger once he has made eye contact! His innate love for people served him well in the music industry but it was his desire to use his gifts to serve people that lead to his becoming an Ordained Pastor/Counselor and Business Life Coach with an M.A. degree in Organizational Leadership.

Venessa was destined to counsel. From her early teens she was the “Therapist” to all her friends. She was inspired to pursue psychology and specialized in Marriage and Family Therapy by receiving an M.A .Degree in counseling psychology and becoming a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist. Additionally, she is a certified Master Life Coach.

Together they have been married for 25yrs. and are building upon the legacy of their parents who have both had 50+ yrs. of successful marriage to change the culture and help marriages thrive.